Greensville: Charging for Salam in Madinah alMunawwarah

To ask for the thread to be deleted and advise trolls to stop backbiting.

Just look at the comments I'm being subjected too. Is this the way of the so-called quote on quote defenders of 'Alahazrat'

 

BOOOOHOOOOOOO

Fyi, I respect Sh Habib Kazim and Sh Habib Umar and just being a khalifa of theirs like Ibrahim or Amir nawaz means nothing. Now get lost

 

why did you come here?

 

Sayyiduna Habib Kazim are known to be from the Saadat and our teachers told us that they heard from their teachers in Tarim that Sayyidi will be serving Imam alMahdi. If you ever bothered to come and meet scholars in person, you would know his level.

Shaykh Amir Nawaz is currently a victim of a witch hunt. Until today no scholar has openly spoken against this. It's just a fuss online and forums.

 

Your stupidity amuses me

 

ibrahim osi-efa is a jahil.

we refuted him on our forum:
https://sunniport.com/index.php?thr...e-dhikr-is-need-explanation.13954/#post-71557

we are least impressed with name dropping and association.

 

Listen child, i have no time to waste on idiots like yourself. Go find yourself some oud "Sidi" and go do muraqaba while listening to "Never Walk Alone"

 

Our teachers taught us that rulings must come from qualified people. Who on this forum is qualified to issue fatwa of such gravity? Like Shaykh Ibrahim Osi Efa told us that this is the time when nobodies will sit in their front rooms eat chocolate biscuits and talk about Islam like they know anything.

 

i don't care what your teachers know.

this charging of money in the scenario described below is suHt. period.

 

what is the guarantee that he has "introduced" you?

 

Are you deliberately being obtuse or are you a troll? Your replies strongly suggest you are a troll.

No one has claimed that a scholar is not allowed to convey a salām on one’s behalf. That is not the issue under discussion. The point in question is the commercialisation of the act; paying money for one’s salām to be transmitted.

 

Why isn't it allowed for a scholar from Ahlil Bayt to introduce us when they are the closest to the Rasul?

Do you think that our teachers do not know what Suht is?

I'm not going to responding to comments like this. Sayyiduna Habib Umar appointed Shaykh Ibrahim in the UK as his main representative. This is not a blessing the likes of you have been granted.

 

Why isn't it allowed for a scholar from Ahlil Bayt to introduce us when they are the closest to the Rasul?

Do you think that our teachers do not know what Suht is?

 

You’ve truly lost your marbles. Perhaps it’s the expensive oud you felt obliged to purchase or maybe your shawl is tied a little too tightly around your neck, but whatever the cause, it seems to have seriously clouded your judgment.

What makes this even more puzzling is that Shaykh Umar al Khatib, the teacher of your teachers, has already been perfectly clear that this sort of behaviour should be objected to by everyone. Yet somehow you still feel the need to defend it, as if persistence might eventually turn wrong into right.

Let’s be honest, loudly and confidently defending your shaykhs is not going to propel you up the spiritual tariqah ladder of Liverpool. The only thing that will do is continuing to donate.

And if the issue is that you simply do not understand what is being said, there’s no need to worry. I’m sure you can always sign up for yet another course at Greensville, pay the usual extortionate fees, and have your teachers carefully translate it for you. That seems to be the preferred solution anyway.

Stop being a fan-mureed and be a Muslim who has honour for the prophet peace and blessings be upon him. From what we've heard is that Tarim scholars are always receiving complaints that Greensville is a money-extorting factory more than an Islamic institute. Only the rich will reach true gnosis and understand the Ba 'Alawi way.

 

You are an absolute blithering imbecile whom the Haba'ib (Allah protect them and grant them aafiyah) like Habib Umar should reprimand for even using their name.
Haroon Hanif is "sincere". My foot. Tell him he can sing "never walk alone"

Mardood insan.


Wasalam ma' al-ikram

 

you are stupid. you don't even understand what you are talking about. the above passage shows how ignorant you are.

someone asked us a question and we gave them a reply. if you have a sharayi standing faulting our reply bring it with proof on how it is permissible to charge money to say salam (and ONLY THE FULL AMOUNT).

what you do with the money is not our business. whether people give you money is also not our business. but a fraud being committed in public will be called out as a fraud. it is public service - whether you like it or not.

 

but muslims can charge money to say salam at the rawdah mubarakah? is it fard or wajib or mustahab? go ahead and enlighten us.

 

looks like you are on damage control mode. this is not backbiting. whoever made the video was public. the demand for money was public. when caught, instead of being humble and remorseful, you guys are trying to spin a positive narrative.

this thread will stay. instead of trying to repair your image in front of makhluq, fear the Wrath of Khaliq sub'Hanahu wa ta'ala.

oh really? that is good to know.

so which hadith or aayat permits you to charge money to say salam at the rawDah? even the proposition is so disgusting and shameful.

 

Who is backbiting? A question was asked the m regarding the permissibility of something and an answer was given.

If anything, the following is backbiting:

 

what proof do you want? the response on the whatsapp image - irrespective of whether it is habib umar's - tells it bluntly. it is bleedingly obvious.

it is suHt. charging money for any religious activity/worship is haram. the only exception was the salary of imams and for teaching the qur'an. reciting qur'an for money is haram. saying salam for money is haram.

if you need evidence for this, it means that your ignorance is immense and instead of dropping names - you better learn something worthwhile.