Kufri statements in everyday kalām?

Dawat-e-Islami has this short booklet on tajdeed-e-imaan and tajdeed-e-nikah:
https://www.dawateislami.net/bookslibrary/ur/tajdeed-e-iman-o-tajdeed-e-nikah-ka-aasan-tariqa


Since tajdeed-e-nikah (even if ihtiyati) requires shara'i witnesses, it necessitates public acknowledgement (even if non-specific) of any kufriya statement made. This embarrassment of disclosure and general ruling against publicising ones faults, I assume, hold back most sincere people from doing tajdeed.

Is there a workaround to this inhibition?

 

no.

no.

 

What if the person, who has done ehtiyaati tajdeed e iman without specifically mentioning or having in mind the kufrs he had uttered or committed, learns later that what he said was kufr, or if he remembers committing kufr in the past, will that necessitate a new tajdeed e iman by mentioning the kufr? And if he doesn't do a fresh tajdeed e iman, will he be considered a kafir?

 

a general very good rule of thumb is to boycott all entertainment industry - SPECIALLY bollywood. it's a school of apostasy. (maybe it's more impactful on us as we are desis). the other entertainment industries like pakistan, arab etc are not much different.

kufr poems and jokes are the norm in the entertainment industry, at least with cuss words people recognize them as cuss words. but even bearded men and niqabi women listening to garbage like "tujh mein rabb dikhta hai" without batting an eyelid is more than worrisome (perhaps, as an excuse for the awam, a lot of us have become so overly desensitized to the entertainment industry that we are subconsciously tuned out of it, unless we actually make an effort to actually focus or appreciate something)

plus now we are in an age where takfir is considered verbal terrorism and forget about takfir by naming and shaming, so-called SCHOLARS are actually teaching people to even avoid mentioning GENERAL rules of deen. it's like the opposite of chinese or soviet communism that wanted to crush propagation of islam by banning it. these guys, including government controlled wahabis, want the same objective, only by deforming deen and promoting the deformities, rather than banning it

ironically, i rarely saw someone desensitized to mentioning rulings of kufr or rules of religion. generally people hit the roof the minute you say something that doesn't sit well with their fancies. below are common scenes on social media as well as personal experiences with me (comments to the left side by me or other Muslims, responses to the right).

1. it is kufr to poke fun at angels - bzzzzzt - brother, you shouldn't be so trigger happy with the k-word! read the wali of Allah, shaykh Nuh's article!
2. it is kufr to call oneself a kafir, even as a joke - bwahahaha - suuurre! so, i'm a kafir now, eh? yup, i'm a kafir.
3. christians are kuffar - bzzzzztt - we shouldn't do takfir, brother. look at your own self and your state in front of Allah.
4. it is kufr to invoke Allah's Mercy on a kafir when he dies - bzzzztt - only Allah will judge that! you have no right to say this.
5. but this is mentioned directly in the Quran, also see the numerous fiqh books like Radd Al-Muhtar on the rulings - brother, those are advanced texts meant for scholars and students of knowledge, you can't cite them unless you have an ijazah from the fuqahaa of the age who know all the nuances of the rulings in those books. it's a bit more sophisticated than 2+2=4!
6. sharukh khan is a murtad for worshiping idols - bzzzztt - brother, that's takfir! it's the job of the ulama, not for common people like you and me. remember, we make 70 excuses for our Muslim brothers.
7. mark hanson is a kafir for fawning over hinduism - BZZZZTT - brother, fear Allah! the flesh of scholars is poisoned. plus that is verbal terrorism.

 

we have one in the appendix of bahar translation.
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brothers can compile a list of statements and post a list here whcih can be picked up by scholars and answered.

 

yes. if one doesn't realise or does not remember, but wants to do tajdeed, they can repent from ALL such statements and renew theri faith.

 

Will ehtiyaati tajdeed e iman suffice to make such people Muslim again?

 

What we see really seems like a Manifestation of the Admonitions Rasūlullah ﷺ gave in his Ahādīth about the state of People's Eemaan in the End of Times; How difficult it will be to Protect one's faith & How fast Muslims will apostatize in Huge numbers.

 

I've also heard things from imams and famous examples can be found on this forum. To be frank, I think hidden riddah is much more common than people think (where the person doesn't realise they've committed riddah and continues to wed Muslims, pray daily, maybe even lead prayers and is buried with Muslims). The examples in the first post are very common but I can think of others too. Deobandism is a widespread example- look at the kufri language used by popular speakers such as tariq jameel and tariq masood and yet those videos will have half a million views with thousands of comments of support, likes, sharing clips on tik tok etc.

 

Even in Dār ul Ulūms It is just so common to see so called "tullābul Ilm" spew kufriya jokes among themselves.

 

Brother, it's worse than that (at least in my experience). I have heard imams speak stuff that are wrong, some that make me wonder if what they said was kufr. It's come to a point where I purposefully refrain from having conversations with imams of masjids, madrasah employees/teachers, and so on, to avoid hearing things that might make me stop praying behind them or entrusting them with zakat money.

 

Learning about Kufriya Kalimaat is part of Fardh Ulūm & It completely changes a person's perspective & Develops Fear & concern for one's Īmān.

Mawlana Ilyas Qadri's Kufriya Kalimaat Kay barey main suwaal jawaab is an Excellent book on the topic, We Desperately Need a Modern English Equivalent of that.

 

This is something I wanted to seek fatwa on but needed an English speaking mufti. Yes, such words are commonly used by kuffar in everyday situations whether at work or social media etc. I hear such statements numerous times a day (and this is not an exaggeration) but they also come from people claiming to be Muslim regularly, because they become accustomed to such language and people imitiate the speech of those who surround them.

People are not careful in their speech and they don't realise the gravity of what they're saying. Unfortunately people are not taught what kind of words or actions take one out of Islam, what is necessarily known in the religion etc. I hear language like this everyday from people with Muslim names but never heard an imam speak about this on a minbar. Parents don't have an issue dropping their kids off to learn in schools where language like this is used constantly and interest is only awakened when they hear they're being taught that kids can have two dads.

 

just about every ethnicity of Muslims (Arabs, Desis, Turks, etc.) uses the word "jahannam" and "azaab" in fights metaphorically (not advocating for it), as in "tum ne meri zindagi jahannam bana di hai" or "jahannam mein jao" or "tum se baat karna azaab hai" or telling someone "tum biwi/dost/naukar nahin, azaabe ilaahi ho" when he/she might actually be a good person in Allah's Judgment

i have even seen Arabs use actual Quranic phrases, like - this train ride is 3adhaabun aleem.

with men, it's common to call other men like an unpleasant boss "malakul maut" or "maut ka farishta". this is kufr afaik. Allahu a3lam.

i know habashis made takfir of some Iraqi poet who called marriage as 3adhaab - as they say it is kufr to make such a mutlaq and generic comment on marriage itself, a major Sunnah of just about all prophets.

 

because holy is associated with filthy things - and even as an expression it is unsavoury and leads one towards blasphemous thoughts.

and i said: 'could' because common people may not know the meaning or implication of either holy or s*** , and because of their ignorance and stupidity keep saying things they should not. hence, a definite hukm of takfir is avoided merely out of consideration to the jahil awaam.

Allah ta'ala knows best.

yes, even the four letter expletive is used as an intensifier - but that should not be a muslim's language.
kuffar have no restrictions - but muslims should keep their tongues free from spewing obscenities and profanities.

nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.

 

On this topic, I'd like to ask
Is the word 'holy' something which is specific to a religious context? Like the word 'hell' being used purely for emphasis at times and not actually carrying the meaning of jahannum, is 'holy' not to be treated the same?
In the Oxford dictionary one of it's usages is mentioned as 'used in exclamations of surprise or dismay'.
Would it still have the potential of carrying the hukm of kufr when somebody is obviously not using the word 'holy' to mean something religious?

Based on the latter 2 statements which you pointed out are kufr, does the same apply to somebody saying "Allāh, f*** you" or "Allāh, f*** off" where the swear-word is addressing the person one is speaking to, and the name Allāh is being used as a filler-type of word?

JazākAllāh for your guidance on this matter. These kind of statements have become widespread upon the tongues of people. May Allāh Ta'ālā protect us.

 

Salam
Of course it is wrong to say the first statement. But hazrat, what if someone makes an argument of "idiomatic expression" for the first one? With the first one, isn't it so common that people don't even know the true and "potentially kufr" meaning of the phrase whilst saying it, unlike the last two?
I am asking because I read a fatwa of a very credible mufti sahab on using the phrase "worships the ground" when being impressed with someone and he said the following:
"Using this phrase due to being impressed by someone is considered an idiomatic expression, and in such contexts, the literal meaning of worship is not intended.
However, even so, it is better to avoid using such phrases."
May I please ask why the above phrase isn't kufr but the first phrase mentioned by the brother could be kufr?

 

Mawlānā @abu Hasan, I've come across these definitions for the word holy in addition to the one mentioned previously:

Merriam-Webster

5
—used as an intensive
this is a holy mess
he was a holy terror when he drank
—Thomas Wolfe
—often used in combination as a mild oath
holy smoke
​

Cambridge

holy adjective (EMPHASIS)
infml
used to emphasize another word, and sometimes to avoid swearing
​

Oxford Learner's

[only before noun] (informal) used to emphasize that you are surprised, afraid, etc.​

What impact, if any, would that have on the ruling on the speaker?

 

for people like us who have to interact in the course of work - this is not 'company' but inevitable interaction.

 

Even if someone avoids the company of kuffaar, such statements are unfortunately extremely common on social media.

I have to instantly become alert anytime a "funny video" pops up or makes it's way through messaging apps.

Even Muslims Unexpectedly blurt out phrases like these in the middle of conversations.

Banda bhāgey bhī to Kahan bhāgey.
May Allah protect our Īmān.